Catch up on my chat with John Bowness of BBC Radio Cumbria. Scroll to 1.53 (8.23am).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07jsrqx
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Catch up on my chat with John Bowness of BBC Radio Cumbria. Scroll to 1.53 (8.23am).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07jsrqx